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Guest
04-11-2004, 03:12 PM
How do I specify a target color for Redeye Reduction? I did the following: 1) Left-Click, 2) Middle-Click, 3) Right-Click, and 4) Enter. But I still see a white circle with a "plus" sign inside. Whatever color this circle/plus is over shows in the "Current" color box.

I bought PhotoShop Elements 2.0 at Sam's Club hoping that the user interface would be similar to PhotoShop which I occasionally use at the office.

I followed the directions under "Using the red eye brush" in the PhotoShop Elements 2.0 Help Menu. Next, I read the Support Knowledge on "PhotoShop Elements 1.0-2.x".

So far (2004/04/11), PhotoShop Elements 2.0 has resisted my efforts to select a target color.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:09 PM
Terry,

Most of us don't use the Red Eye tool as it tends to go from red to a sort of grey... which doesn't look realistic. The method I use is:

Select the red area plus a few pixels ... feather a little.
Make a new layer ... and do each eye on a separate layer.
Enhance>colour>hue & sat> ... select red from the edit box and reduce saturation to zero or thereabouts
Enhance>Brightness & contrast>levels .. move the left hand marker in about a third of the way and move the centre marker over to the right until the area goes dark ... not too far or it will look artificial.

Wendy

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 04:10 PM
Terry, when you say 'target', do you mean the replacement color? That's
selected by clicking on the Replacement color swatch in the Red-Eye tool
toolbar. That opens up the color picker where you can select whatever color
you want. The 'current' color is indeed the color that you hover over with
the circle. Keep in mind that the replacement color really is a replacement
hue that will be lighter or darker than the color in the swatch depending on
the lightness of the image on which you're painting; it won't replace a
light color with a dark color. Very confusing tool, in my opinion.

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:28 PM
To add to Chuck's post, note you have two options on the tool bar. First click and current color along with a tolerance setting. So, if you only want to affect a certain color use first click...click on color to be changed. Adjust tolerance as needed (low to affect a smaller range of color.) Current color changes whatever color is under the brush to the replacement color hue. I use this tool a lot to change colors of things for challenge entries. I tend to use other methods such as Wendy's in one of the above posts because I don't particularly care for gray eye which the brush has a tendancy to produce.

Terri

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-11-2004, 11:37 PM
Terri, I've had a real hard time making the first click option only recolor
the one picked; is there a trick to its use?

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 01:42 AM
Chuck, I pretty much paint with the red-eye brush. I have a stylus and tablet so if an area doesn't change color due to luminosity or shadow I just tap to point sample. I usually paint at 45% or so if in a big area with a medium sized soft brush but lower the tolerance to the teens or low 20 switch to a smaller brush and paint around the edges...paying attention to the cross hairs because that is where the color is applied. I know not the magic answer you thought you were going to get. I just think it looks more natural than painting in many cases...well at least my painting...because it seems to not smother the texture and luminosity. For me it's well simplier than creating artificial shadows and luminosity with dodge, burn, and sponge tools. I haven't got to the point were I feel I have master these enough to dupe a photograph. I think a handful of people probably can ...I'm not saying these techniques should be overlooked...just saying I haven't reached that level of mastery so I utilize the red-eye brush as my handy dandy crutch tool. Since I don't use it on red-eye, got to utilize that baby some how. Happy Easter!

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 03:02 AM
Terri, thanks. I'll be reading - and re-reading - your post and giving it a
try on my (underutilized) tablet!

Happy Easter to you also!

Chuck

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

Guest
04-12-2004, 04:33 AM
Chuck, I do have to hand it to you folks that can paint or make selections with any sort of accuracy with the mouse. Takes a bit of practice but once you get the hand eye coordination down these stylus tablets can really be handy if you enjoy doing creative projects. Don't know how useful a person just doing photo retouching would find them.

Terru

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